The Incontiguous Brick

July 2, 2007

Pope calls for Chinese Catholics to commit suicide!

Filed under: China,Warnings — iknowkeith @ 7:36 am

Pope Benedict XVI on June 30, 2007 invited all Roman Catholics in China to unite under his jurisdiction and urged Beijing to restore diplomatic ties and permit religious freedom.

wallpaper1.jpgHe called China’s state-run Catholic Church “incompatible” with Catholic doctrine but nevertheless made unprecedented overtures toward it. Although the Vatican seems to be seeking a positive resolution in its differences with China, history would suggest this to be impossible.

The official Chinese response to the letter, which was published at the weekend, has not been so positive. Beijing said it is willing to continue a dialogue with the Vatican, but a government spokesman said the Pope must not interfere in China’s affairs in the name of religion.

China forced its Roman Catholics to cut ties with the Vatican in 1951, shortly after the officially atheist Communist Party took power. Worship is allowed only in the government-controlled churches, which recognize the pope as a spiritual leader but appoint their own priests and bishops.

Millions of Chinese, however, belong to unofficial congregations that remain loyal to Rome.

An example of how the PRC treats religious dissent:

    In 1992 a new religion formed in China and called themselves the Falun Gong. It was mostly a meditation self-improvement thing but became wildly popular in the religion-starved society of China. It all changed in April 1999 when a Tianjin professor, He Zuoxiu, wrote an article in the Tianjin College of Education’s Youth Reader magazine entitled “I Do Not Agree with Youth Practicing Qigong,” and made special mention of Falun Gong.

    On April 25, an estimated 10,000 Falun Gong practitioners lined the streets near Zhongnanhai in a silent protest against the government, alleging unfair treatment of its practitioners in Tianjin. In July 1999, the government banned Falun Gong in mainland China, fearing “a serious ideological and political struggle that would have a bearing on the future of the Communist Party and the State”.

    Now Falun Gong members are persecuted viciously by the Chinese government. Human rights organization, Amnesty International claims over 2000 members have been executed for the being a member of the Falun Gong and 100,000 are in prison/work camps. Recently there have even been allegations of organ harvesting of live Falun Gong prisoners (and other political prisoners) for profit.

What does Pope Benedict XVI really hope to accomplish with his letter? If the Chinese ignore it, he appears weak and ineffectual. If the Chinese Catholics actually demand The Pope be given power over the official churches (in place of the CCP) then it could get ugly. Perhaps with the Beijing Olympics just around the corner, the Party will proceed with caution in handling their Catholics. But if history is any lesson, those guys are screwed if they upset the political balance or present a united front against the government’s authority.



  1. So what you are saying iknowkeith is that we should not speak out when something is wrong…that we should hide in fear from evil and put our strong faiths aside? What would that achieve?

    “Pope John Paul 11 had an an enormous impact on bringing Communism down in Eastern Europe. He did not participate in politics yet led a battle on behalf of Catholicism against communism and its massacres. This was a battle between righteousnesses and evil, not a political movement. The Pope was able to forgive the very assassin who shot a bullet into him. This great forgiveness could save a life of a moral degenerate and awaken the compassion of countless people.

    If he forgave the communists and went along with such evil, it would have meant that he was betraying God, betraying the very best of human nature and betraying the dignity of life. So what I am asking is if you believe in the power of prayer or righteousnesses or goodness to pray or call for the end of communism. It is trying to spread its evilness round the world and we have to do our utmost to stop it.”

    And neither should any faith give into evil for what happens then to your belief ? People who have strong beliefs are not afraid to die because they know what awaits them after this life…a life free of suffering here on earth.

    Please visit my blog where i have 2 recent articles one about the letter from the Pope to CCp and the other about a Rabbi who says Israeli Government should speak out now about Live organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China and or consider a possible boycott for the 2008 Bloody Harvest Beijing Games .

    Comment by Jana — July 3, 2007 @ 3:56 am | Reply

  2. re. JANA –
    I think there is a big difference between people resisting oppression or challenging authority because of their belief vs. someone calling for others to risk their lives. The Pope has no skin in this game. He is comletely safe when he says the Chinese Catholics should stand up to their government and be under his authority.

    I could do the same… How about this, ALL PEOPLE OF THE JEWISH FAITH IN IRAN SHOULD PROTEST THEIR LACK OF FREE SPEECH!!! (if you are one of these people, please don’t listen to me) I have nothing to lose here, so go for it! If I was a person of authority in their faith they might listen and then be killed and it would be my fault.

    I have the utmost respect for anyone who has the courage to challenge their own oppressive government. I do not have the same respect of someone daring others to do it.

    I have been to your blog. Good stuff.

    Comment by iknowkeith — July 3, 2007 @ 2:10 pm | Reply

  3. HI iknowkeith,

    The Pope is laying his skin on the line too.He is a massive target for many fanatics and evil groups. Nostradamus’s revelations point out that this Pope will be assassinated by Muslims.

    Im not saying that this will happen so please don’t take it that way. But all possibilities for anyone doing good in this world are targeted by the evil at this time.

    Its still up to individual Catholics hearts and understanding’s as to what they can and cant do. In China the underground Catolic Churches and priests are doing what they have to do to keep the true Catholicism alive in Jesus name. They are enduring as Jesus had to do, as Falun Gong are doing and will never give in to the evil. That fate is worse for those who know what lies ahead when you succumb to evil and it makes many more problems for the remaining people on earth. Way too much karma…

    Comment by Jana — July 3, 2007 @ 7:16 pm | Reply

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